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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 11:47:15 PM »
+1 for a wiki. Let the community help where we can. Not to mention some core game mechanics are never explained in the game and currently you have to scour around the forums and devlog to find info on the game, a wiki would be great.
[[Underrail Wiki]] // character build tool: underrail.info.tm (thread)

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 12:46:34 AM »
I've had good and bad experiences with wikis. The main bad one is the GearHead wiki which got wiped accidentally. No one had a backup. :(

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 01:14:10 AM »
Here guys I made a Wikia page for UnderRail.
Wikia.com is rly easy to use and works fine!

http://underrail.wikia.com - I need some help to create the "home" page.


http://underrail.wikia.com/wiki/UnderRail - I made this article in about 20 min, I never worked with wikipedia or wikia before. :p


Here are some examples of successful wikia pages.

http://fallout.wikia.com

http://wasteland.wikia.com
« Last Edit: March 21, 2013, 01:19:50 AM by Pumpkins »

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 07:32:07 PM »
http://underrail.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Primary_statistics

Added a new page. Styg might want to take a look at it when he's got the time and correct any mistakes and maybe add hard facts that is not explicit in the game.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 07:51:25 PM »
Cool stuff, guys. :)

I'll help out as soon as I get done with this patch.

Ideally, I'd like to host the wiki on my site and customized the theme and all, but since I really don't have the time to do all that stuff this might be good alternative.

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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2013, 12:08:20 AM »
There are no traits in Underrail and the Perk page needs to be changed to Feats. I don't have permission to change the page though.

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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2013, 01:39:27 AM »
Ugh, I hate Wikia. Half of the layout is filled with useless crap, unless you log in and change it to monobook layout from personal options, in which case it differs so much from wikia's standard it becomes hard to build pages that look good in both. I'm not too excited about this, but I guess it's better than nothing.

The main page looks horrible, the source code is a mess and the actual content page is located at Template:Main_Contents rather than Underrail_Wiki for some reason I cannot fathom.

Why is pretty much everything in the category namespace? What's going on with half of the links at the front page? Oh god, this is going to be a handful...

Also, permission problems: registered users cannot move pages in namespace category.
For example, http://underrail.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MovePage/Category:Perks - would've moved it to Category:Feats
[[Underrail Wiki]] // character build tool: underrail.info.tm (thread)

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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2013, 02:03:06 AM »
I think I'll do something to the front page, clean the code and get started with content sorting/addition. No guarantee it'll look good on the wikia standard layout.

Please be bold and improve/fix my edits.


PS. I would appreciate if someone could create templates for things like infoboxes (do we already have those on wikia?) and item/area lists etc!
[[Underrail Wiki]] // character build tool: underrail.info.tm (thread)

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2013, 09:19:27 AM »
Guys dont panic!

I just played around yesterday to see how wikia works. You all are welcome to change everything!
just create an acc there and I will change the permition stuff

I have already one infobox. I will make more infoboxes for characters and we need a page where we can put all templates for easy and fast access.

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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2013, 09:32:21 AM »
Ugh, I hate Wikia. Half of the layout is filled with useless crap, unless you log in and change it to monobook layout from personal options, in which case it differs so much from wikia's standard it becomes hard to build pages that look good in both. I'm not too excited about this, but I guess it's better than nothing.

The main page looks horrible, the source code is a mess and the actual content page is located at Template:Main_Contents rather than Underrail_Wiki for some reason I cannot fathom.

Why is pretty much everything in the category namespace? What's going on with half of the links at the front page? Oh god, this is going to be a handful...

Also, permission problems: registered users cannot move pages in namespace category.
For example, http://underrail.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MovePage/Category:Perks - would've moved it to Category:Feats


The main page was a free/demo layout from the wikia community. I thought it would be cool to use and edit it. :p
Most of the stuff is copy/pasta from wasteland2/fallout wikia.
You can check both wikias to see how they organized everything in categories. Because we cant just list all 1000 npc names in the main page.

Thats why we need a category "NPC" where all names are listed in alphabetical order.
The "main_content" template was just a Menu I put in the Main Page with all links to the categories. In this way ppl can edit the main page and move "main_content"  menu around.

Imo we need to put only key words in a list or menu at the main page and then link to a more detailed page with a list and explanation for example; "Perk" key word links to http://underrail.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Perks where we can go further and select one perk from the list.

I hope you guys understand what I mean :p and if you think it looks horrible or that I choose the wrong colors and stuff then help me to edit it! Im not a pro.

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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2013, 09:35:49 AM »
I think the main page is a bit too long now and a tad bit overdeveloped. The Fallout and Wasteland wiki got it right, simple and understandable.

Also, add a solid background to the pages please, the transparency hurts my eyes when I read/edit pages.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2013, 10:38:42 AM »
Yeah I understand. I will add a solid background but it will cover the good artwork piece.  :p

be be sure you make an acc there because you get more privileges by editing stuff.



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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2013, 06:33:03 PM »
Are there game files we can look at to extract descriptions of items, feats, etc.?

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2013, 07:35:38 PM »
I think the main page is a bit too long now and a tad bit overdeveloped. The Fallout and Wasteland wiki got it right, simple and understandable.
By all means, add/edit anything you wish! Be bold. As long as it adds information to the wiki, it's good at this point.

I know the main page's still a bad excuse of a wiki page right now, but at least the source code is now a bit more clean, there are no more template boxes and the page has some actual underrail-related redlinks to get everyone, including unregistered editors, started.


Are there game files we can look at to extract descriptions of items, feats, etc.?
If you have some sort of XNB exporter, you can probably export most of the game's data.

I thought of exporting all item icons and uploading them to the wiki as 32x32x32 png files. That would be a lot of work though, and Styg might already have them in separate files and/or higher resolution.
[[Underrail Wiki]] // character build tool: underrail.info.tm (thread)

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Re: Underrail wiki?
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2013, 07:56:22 PM »
I don't have them in separate files but I can split them into that. However, some icons are multi part with variable transparency so  that you'd have to get from the game directly.

Game text is a bit all over the place, unfortunately, and you won't be able to extract it that easily because I don't use XNA's default pipeline for anything but sound and graphics I think.

Btw, how much does Wikia actually help with creating content/layouts? I have MediaWiki installed on my site if you guys would rather work with that.