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jackdcuna

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Post You build :)
« on: March 27, 2015, 03:52:27 pm »
C'mon, show what You got :)


Since I started this topic here is mine:

Metathermic gunslinger/sniper

Critical atributes:
Perception (10)



Critical skills:
Guns max
Dodge
Evasion
Metatermmics (for cryostasis and cryokinesis)
Psychokinesis (just 25 to get telekinetic punch and forcefield)
Melee (just 25 for dirty kick)
Stealth

Critical feats:
Aimed shot
Execute
Hipothermia
Cryogenic induction
Sharpshooter
Shroomhead
Oportunist
Snipe
Dirty kick

Rest is optional


I like this build alot since You can easily drop though enemies by using stasis+shatter combo. It also grants other means of exploiting weakened enemies.



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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 05:05:41 pm »
Metathermic gunslinger/sniper
Cursed at the beginning %)
Perception (10)
Well, it's kinda ok. But what about other stats?
Critical skills:
Guns max
Dodge
Evasion
Metatermmics (for cryostasis and cryokinesis)
Psychokinesis (just 25 to get telekinetic punch and forcefield)
Melee (just 25 for dirty kick)
Stealth
With Meta_Psycho_Melee we got a great mess here. 1 full stack of points to distribute left.... Guns, Dodge, Evasion, Stealth - ok! But other...
With this build you don't have enougth points left for lockpicking/hacking in the beginning -> your life will be harder. And no crafting skills(mechanics/tailoring is important for the good sniper)


Critical feats:
Aimed shot - ok
Execute - for rhis build is ok, but it is not the best feat to take anyway and works only with pistolet.
Hipothermia - meh
Cryogenic induction - ok for this build but...
Sharpshooter - ok
Shroomhead - not working in current version
Oportunist - ok for this build
Snipe - ok
Dirty kick - meh... Not work against robots



Pros of this build:
+ Good 1 vs 1 build, can kill easily almost any organic enemy.
+ Many opportunities to stun enemies(telekenic punch, cryostasis, dirty kick)
+ Good PER score for finding secrets and stealth enemies %)
+ May be very funny build to play with... sometimes %)

Coms:
- Weak against robotic enemies.
- No good AOE (No throwing and you are too weak to be PSI-AOE King) -> Kinda weak against a large number of enemies
- Bad skill allocation
- No crafting skills (or no info)
- Mediocre survivability (No feats for this, no info on CON score and armor)
- Can't see good mobility for this build (No feats, high AGI score, nothing about your amor of choice)


P.S. No testing just what i saw from your post)

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 08:09:33 pm »
Hey, I'll critique your build, then show you some of mine :D

So here's what I think:

-stats:  Stats are fine, stealth sniper builds really can do whatever imo, I'm assuming you also have 5 strength since the wiki erroneously states that dragunov still has no strength req, it's 5 now.

-skills: you probably only want 40 cryo, 30 psycho if you're doing a minimal psi build.  This gives you electrokinesis, which is necessary when telepunch starts failing due to lack of skill, and the 40 gives you premeditation, for the free electrokinesis.  High cryo is unnecessary, as stasis is irresistable!

Evasion is great but dodge is always sketchy.   It's awesome, but so is skill points, which are hard to come by on stealth characters.  This is especially true for snipers, as the only true need for dodge is if you get surprised, but with max perception, this should never happen if you have detection goggles while running around.

You're better off taking dodge to 40 and taking uncanny dodge, then ditch dodge, if you must have dodge.

So those are the unnecesessaries, some skills you might consider to replace them:

-throwing: good on every character
-lock&hack: great for questionable combat stealth builds.  Sniper is somewhat lacking in combat compared to pistol dex builds
-traps: can somewhat make up for lack of L&H and is compacted into one skill
-mechanics: the one crafting to take if you don't need other crafting usually
-biology: up to 70ish is a nice "half skill" for anyone

Feats:

-shroomhead=barf
-hypothermia= eh... used to be goodish, not anymore.  Now that psi is getting nerfed, hopefully it can get reverted with just a higher psi cost

needs:
-premeditation

If you want a more combat oriented character that can also snipe, go for a pistol stealth build, but that requires massive dex investment.

Anyways, here's some builds I've tried:

Tank builds-

"braindead"

9 str
9 con
10 perc (to 13 ish)

skills: whatever tbh, non-psi tank basically has infinite freedom with skills.  I think I went triple psi anyways for the lulz.
critical feats: full auto, sharpshooter, conditioning

Notes: Dragunov in one hand, heavy assault in other.

"magic braindead"

9 str
9 con
10 will

skills: biology, electronics, triple psi, intimidation, throwing, chemistry bit of other junk
feats: condition, psi feats

Notes: Has trouble with bots, especially in beginning.

"psi grenadier"

6 dex
10 con (all non will points go here)
10 will (to 13 ish)
5 int

skills: throwing(not quite max), mechanics, biology (70 with synergy), chem (112),electronics, tailoring(not quite max) triple psi
feats: grenadier, conditioning, psi (considered the free bolt crossbow feat)

Notes: Uses heavy armor (lol). Has trouble with.... >>BIG<< bots

Stealth:

I've tried a few but I can never remember exactly how they go. 

"first stealth build"

5str
7 agility
10 perc
5 int (actually went 9 for testing purposes, wanted to see how bad high crafting was.  Is bad)
rest whatever


skills:Guns, throwing, mech, electronics, 40psycho,35 cryo, stealth, L&H, no evasion or dodge(!)
feats: interloper, premed, that electronics crafting one,+obvious perc

Also trying a melee stealth build which is doing awesome currently, although I've stopped since learning the new build is coming.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 08:25:39 pm by Greep »

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 10:55:40 pm »
A bit off topic but sense we're talking about builds maybe you guys could give me some advice. I want to make a build that uses assault rifles mainly but also some psi (meta & psycho) for some cc. Trouble is I really don't know what my stat spread should be.
I know I need at least 6 Str for the guns (one needs 7 but meh) and Will and Per are going to need to be up there as well. So what should be sacrificed and what shouldn't? I'd hate to lower Int as that ties to skills and less Con means less HP. I'm driving myself crazy please help.

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 11:00:50 pm »
Well, CC for psi generally means either going 3 will (for irrestables) or 10+( for LoC and resistables).  Just how it works really.  The rest is up to you.  With the new feats, it depends on how you want to play.  There's always two main ways to play underrail.

A) Tank things.  Heavy armor + con.

B) Never get hit (stealth and run)

The new feats also allow for

C) Light armor and evasion + 10 con or 7 dex (really 10 con)
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 11:03:39 pm by Greep »

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 11:07:36 pm »
To be honest I'm pretty newbie when it comes to psi. The main things I'm after are cryo for the slow and freeze and punch for the stun plus electro for bots and force field just because.

Armor wise I'm uncertain probably riot gear, no stealth. Although I'm really interested in the new Tchort robes. (wiki hasn't added a page for those yet.)

Ehh I'll just wing it and see what happens. Half the fun right?
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 11:36:49 pm by MetaSieg »

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 11:45:58 pm »
Absolutely :D  But yes, with the build you described, I would go 3 will.  It will mean telepunch will fail on heavy armored folks, though, so watch out!  The increased damage on cryo is not worth will investment, although it will mean cryokinesis of very little worth.  Cryostasis, otoh, will still be just as good :D
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 11:48:00 pm by Greep »

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Re: Post You build :)
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2015, 01:12:28 am »
Thanks Greep & epeli that helps a lot.